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My car is low back. Some tips to fix?
« Topic Start: 2015 Liepos 26, 23:44:58 »
My car is low back. Have tryed to change to new springs/spyruokles and Shock absorbers/amortizatorius back. but still low. I can see this is a generally problem with this cars in Lithuania (Maybe beacuse of wight LPG thank/balonas). My is also with LPG system. Have someone fix this someway so its normal back? I thinking about try to get som longer springs ore som coilover kit back.
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In lithuanian cars  on LPG, is on driver seat is LPG factory, in LT back is too low because is on bacck is full of fu;; diesel canisters for brothers or friend

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My car is low back. Have tryed to change to new springs/spyruokles and Shock absorbers/amortizatorius back. but still low. I can see this is a generally problem with this cars in Lithuania (Maybe beacuse of wight LPG thank/balonas). My is also with LPG system. Have someone fix this someway so its normal back? I thinking about try to get som longer springs ore som coilover kit back.

There is no problems like this in Lithuania at all :bedantis: just take out the LPG tank and you will find out where is the problem ;)

P.S. cut the front springs, probably its too high ff
« Paskutinį kartą keitė: 2015 Liepos 27, 00:14:55 sukūrė Gerb.Zigmas »

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I want to have the LPG tank and and same time have normal height back :)and i dont want to cut my springs in front of the car. is a quattro so should be high ;-) is it some company that making springs in Lithuania ore someone that selling coiloverkit, ore some leveling system? I live in Klaipeda....
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A friend of me used som Golf 2 coilovers springs to get it higher back. The problem with this spring is that it's getting tinner in the ends. Get a tip to use c4 avant springs back. I don't know if this is higher..?

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if possible, try to take a picture or write down the part number or more likely a color code from your rear springs. They are most likely faded, but you can try. This may help or may not to identify what the culprit is and possibly to give you an advice of which springs to get instead.

I may try to find that by your VIN, so please give it to me, but chances are very low.
In general it is not easy with color codes / part numbers when buying springs. Your shock may have a different point (heighwise) of spring mounting plate.

The reasons for low back end:
Shock is tired as a good shock (especially gas pressure type) will have SOME lifting power.
Springs are tired if they are old.
Wrong shock-spring setup
Rear bearing rings are tired (for example 441512331 to know what i am talking about, yours may or may not be different)

You mentioned changing shocks and springs. Was it brand new set or used second-hand.

I do have a very similar problem in my C3 200 :)

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It's brand new Monroe shock absorbers and Monroe springs back. At Eoltas they tip to put in some gummi they sell, so get higher.

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Vin: WAUZZZ4AZMN065763

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The rubber linings (eoltas gummi as you refer to it) will not make an awful lot of difference because they are used to reduce the amount of distance the car lowers when it is heavily loaded (i.e. when you have full trunk etc.). In unloaded condition the spring will not have small enough distance between windings to make a tight fit for a spring.

a simple solution for your model is to use 2 mounting plates under the spring, i had this setup in my car few years ago. If needed, you can put a pipe of respective diameter inbetween the two for extra lift. In my case the lower plate was mounted upside down for some reason (see attached picture). And yes even if you use some extra pipe, you still need 2 plates, as pipe is not strong enough to be used as lower support!!!! (guess how I know ;-) killed 2 brand new shocks this way, as when the pipe failed it killed the chamfered edge of the shock, where the plate normally should go). This may look ghetto, but hey, 'it ain't ghetto if it works', right?

What lift do you need? if it is about 2cm, so use the same setup as mine in the picture. But be careful with the amount of lift as your shocks will hate hiting their upper limits, especially if they have a shorter strut insert than oem setup. This will kill them instantly.

Another more ghetto solution is to weld another mounting bracket (from your old shock for example), but this is a bit too ghetto for my taste. The advantage of it as it raises the rear end by extending the whole suspension by this hight and it does not extend the shock excessively. The disadvantage is that it is destructive, in comparison to adding an extra plate.

Can't check the vin as the car is too old, but it will not make any difference as we are talking about aftermarket setup now.

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Thank you for long and good answer :-) Now I have different ways to solve it :-)